Sometimes I hear the criticism that Laidlaw College is a
liberal college; or, that it is betraying its evangelical heritage. This
perception, so I hear, has led some to prefer other colleges which are
considered more evangelical. All of this is anecdotal of course, but it led me
to blog on this issue, to question whether this perception fair. Is Laidlaw
College “liberal?” This is a very important question to me, as I consider
myself an evangelical through and through. I invite your response.
First of all it should be noted that the staff of Laidlaw
College is made up of a range of theological scholars with a wide range of
ideas. So, to define Laidlaw College as liberal or evangelical is problematic. We
do not have one view. We are a conglomerate of diverse views. So, what would
make us liberal or evangelical when we are not one thing? I am not sure. Further,
would we want a college that presents one narrow “evangelical” view—surely, it
is a great thing that there is diversity on the faculty—as long as we are
united in some way around the authentic gospel and faith. And this we most
definitely are.
Secondly, what unites us is our statement of faith, which as
far as I can see, is thoroughly evangelical in a broad inclusive sense.
You can read it at http://www.laidlaw.ac.nz/en/college-information/our-statement-of-faith.
Our statement of faith is carefully written to be evangelical, but broad and
inclusive; so that the range of evangelical views that are out there can be
accommodated. Every lecturer has substantially agreed to this statement.
Thirdly, we have the problem of defining liberal vs.
evangelical. If evangelical is related to certain theological absolutes such as
seven-day or old earth creationism, the importance of the modern state of
Israel, a particular mode of baptism, the rapture and pre-millennialism,
inerrancy, then we are probably not evangelical. Rather, we are diverse, with a
range of different views on these things across our faculty. However, if evangelical means a commitment to Scripture as
inspired, authoritative, and the primary source for theological thinking, then we
are thoroughly evangelical—I do not know of one lecturer who has or is working
at Laidlaw that does not come from this place in their theological work. If
evangelical means that our lecturers are full-on for Jesus Christ as Lord, then
we are evangelical. If evangelical means we are committed to the church, to
mission, and to God’s vision for the Kingdom of God, then we are evangelical
through and through. If evangelical means “committed to the euangelion,
the gospel,” then we are evangelical to the core.
Fourthly, If being evangelical demands that we read
Scripture in a certain way (e.g. biblical literalism) as is common in some
circles, we are likely not evangelical. Many of us recognise that there are
diverse ways of reading the same book leading in some cases to differing
theological conclusions—especially on non-essentials of the faith. Many of us read
Scripture narratively and in what might be called Biblical Theology, seeing
Scripture as one story flowing from Creation to New (Renewed) Creation, with
Christ at the centre. Many of us read Scripture Christologically, seeing Christ
as Lord and seeking to read Scripture, church, and life through the lens of a
God who has come upon us and shown us both what true divinity and true humanity
look like. This sometimes leads to differing conclusions from those
reached by those tend to read Scripture more atomistically. Many of us read the
Scriptures through a Trinitarian lens, finding the story of a Triune God
reflected in the story of the world.
Many of us diverge from privileging certain verses in
Scripture over others, as is not uncommon in some traditions. For example,
where “women in ministry” is concerned, some universalise and privilege texts
like 1 Tim 2:9–15; 1 Cor 14:32–34 over other texts in Paul concerning women.
Others privilege Jesus’ teaching , such texts as Gal 3:28, and texts where Paul
and Luke mention women active in work for the gospel (e.g. Acts 18:26; Rom
16:3–5, 6, 7, 12; Phil 4:2–3; Col 4:15, etc). This is not then a liberal vs.
evangelical question; this is an interpretative question that leads to
different conclusions depending on reading method. Many of us at Laidlaw
College read the bible in a very detailed way, searching word meanings,
historical and social contexts, and analysing in great depth the Scriptures
searching for God’s truth. Many of our PhDs are now published around the world.
A good number of us have or are writing books and commentaries among the
world’s elite biblical scholars. I would argue that Laidlaw is hardly non-evangelical
in regards to interpretation of Scripture, it is thoroughly evangelical. We
lecturers are always grappling with Scripture seeking the answer to
today’s questions from it. Our conclusions may challenge some traditional
ideas, but isn’t that the principle of the Reformation—to be ever reforming?
Finally, being an evangelical academic organisation
means that we exist not to promote one or other theological view, but to question,
to challenge, to affirm, to think, to consider. The Christian faith involves a
huge level of diversity. The world is always changing. Our context is
bi-cultural and increasingly multi-cultural. A new “normal” is emerging in our
social context. Non-western Christianity continues to grow and indigenous
theological writing is exploding. Science is opening up questions galore.
Ethics is a melting pot. The church is being increasingly challenged from
without and within. Evangelicalism itself is fragmenting facing huge questions
that are not easily answered in this scientific, technological, and socially
liberal world. New questions are always being raised. Surely, we must give our
best thinking in such an environment. This is what we seek to do.
And as we ask these questions, we need to be open to look at
alternative views from the many traditions within Christianity, including the
so-called “liberal.” To not do so is arrogant and assumptive, believing we have
always had the answers and nothing changes. Whatever “evangelical” is, it must
be in conversation with other traditions. We sometimes find that others have
ideas that we need to rethink and cause us adjust our understanding. Similarly,
we need to be in conversation with the huge non-Christian world of thought.
I suggest that in this complex environment of the early 21st
century, our evangelical diversity is a great strength and not a weakness. What
sort of academic organisation would we be if we existed to promote one view of
the faith, evangelical or otherwise? What would it look like if we shut down
one or other voice on a particular issue and didn’t allow the Church the
privilege of hearing alternative views on controversial subjects? You will find
at Laidlaw people who are asking the hard questions that desperately need
asking. However, they are asking these things from lives of faith, minds
being renewed, and from Scripture first, Christian history and theology, and
contemporary thinking. Rather than this meaning we are liberal, this is one of
our greatest evangelical strengths. If we want to be challenged and tested to
think deeply and well about your faith from a diversity of evangelical
perspectives, this we are the sort of place that does this. We know we don’t
always get it right, but no-one does. We are always growing and re-thinking.
Knowing this, we believe in dialogue that is based on love and openness. We
want to be a community in which people can ask the hard questions and make a
few mistakes in the quest for God’s truth for today.
So, if you choose to come to Laidlaw you won’t get a
party-line evangelicalism, a denominational evangelicalism, a literalist
evangelicalism, a dispensational evangelicalism, or a reformed evangelicalism.
You will get a safe broad evangelical context where you can explore the hard
questions of our age. You will meet lecturers who ask challenging questions
which are raised by our age. But every lecturer you meet is a person of authentic
faith, of the gospel, of the church, of mission, of the Triune God, of Christ
at the centre of all things, and of the Scriptures. Isn’t that evangelical?
I am not sure why this perception or liberalism persists. Perhaps
it is our own fault for our failure to communicate the fullness of what goes on
at Laidlaw? Perhaps it is a misunderstanding? Perhaps it derives from the old
liberal-evangelical paradigm or from people locked into a tight way of thinking
about what it means to be evangelical or liberal? Perhaps it is because some
believe evangelicalism is defined by certain doctrines, which in reality are
matters of dispute and have been for millennia. I would suggest to you that it
is simply a false perception and encourage all students with an evangelical
heart to find out for themselves. You can study from level 4 intro-level
through to Doctorates in the Theology or Ministry. Most that do love it. So
come and see.
Comments
Good thinking Mark and thanks. I think the clear and creative thinking at Laidlaw deserves our continuing support and prayer.
Pete B
Helpful stuff. Can you help me by explaining what this means: "Every lecturer has substantially agreed to this statement." Is substantially a qualifier, or do they agree with the full substance, or how is the phrase being used?
I'm not certain that it's a fair dichotomy to group as either liberal or evangelical. I'm not sure that evangelical is really evangelical any more. Even holding to an authoritative and inspired view of scripture doesn't mean much these days. Guys like Rob Bell, who are clearly on the "liberal" end of the spectrum, hold to these same affirmations.
Something that has begun to concern me more and more is the over-emphasis on biblical theology and the taking of non-biblical sources of context as authoritative. These combine to bring substantially different interpretations than what has been considered orthodox among evangelical circles for a long time. Frankly, it seems to me that the Spirit is not in many of these interpretations because these people often have a warped view of the glory of God. We must be wary of the latest fads and interpretations which better match the shifting form of popular culture.
We have to remember also that Christianity presents answers to a hurting world and not just questions, questions, and more questions in an endless "conversation".
Hopefully this "sneaky liberalism" isn't present at Laidlaw these days. I do hear lots of positive things about the place from friends who decided to attend, but it's a little like Life FM: when you tune in from time to time you hear worrying things which really make you pray for them.
Some groups within evangelicalism seem to confuse their own particular belief-system with "evangelicalism," therefore anything that opposes or questions those beliefs must be "liberal". Only by (mis-)understanding liberalism in this way could Laidlaw be considered liberal.
But I think this is a mis-diagnosis. Evangelicalism is much more about your other definitions (commitment to scripture, Christ and the gospel etc), than about one particular static belief-system. So there is a lot of diversity within evangelicalism, as there is within any healthy academic movement/perspective.
Laidlaw reflects some of this evangelical diversity. I think one of Laidlaw's strengths is its ability to showcase some of the diversity of legitimate, orthodox views on various issues, and (on some issues) to help provide more nuanced and critical evangelical views, in place of popular understandings often mistaken for the sole evangelical (or Christian!) view.
PS: Sam Hight, in my experience Laidlaw teaches the Wesleyan Quadrilateral (or Pentalateral), with Scripture firmly placed first on the list of authoritative sources. We're taught to take into account 'non-biblical sources' like context precisely so that we can understand the biblical sources better. Moreover, we're taught to engage culture through the lens of Scripture, rather than the other way around.
Anyway, where do you get your yardstick to measure Laidlaw by? Have you studied somewhere else that you feel is stronger on the gospel or evangelical orthodoxy than Laidlaw is or was?
To Anonymous who writes, '"Every lecturer has substantially agreed to this statement." Is substantially a qualifier, or do they agree with the full substance, or how is the phrase being used?' The substance has to be agreed to, although there may be one or two clauses that different lecturers can disagree with. For example, the Statement affirms a renewed earth. If a lecturer believed in a new earth, then I am sure there would be no problem. A few are evolutionary theists, and so would want to define "death" a little differently. So, there is some room for differences on matters of detail.
Thanks Sam. The "core of the gospel" is a difficult term. I think we would all affirm the gospel as usually understood, but the faculty would vary in its commitment to various dimensions of the gospel depending on their interests and specialty areas. We may have failed to articulate clearly our commitment to core elements and this we are working on at present. We really want people to know we are committed to the gospel, to salvation in Christ, to the cross, to life in Christ, to the church, to the Spirit, to wholehearted discipleship, to reconciliation, to social justice, to evangelism, to the Trinity, to love, and to a whole gospel with Christ at the center. Thanks for your comments because it reminds us to emphasize the core of what God is up to.
Thanks for your helpful comments Caleb. For me, evangelicalism supremely refers to a theological method that derives the centre of all theology and life from Scripture. This leads us to place Christ, his life, death, and resurrection at the centre. It leads us to place the Spirit, Church, and mission at the centre of ongoing life. Because Scripture can be read differently, and no-one can claim the ultimate reading, there will be great diversity. I celebrate that. And, yes, the Wesleyan quadrilateral is very helpful.
Thanks all.
That said, these so-called scholars hailed from the Secular Universities, and they were - I understand - only attending due to the conference being held at Laidlaw College. It is just a shame that the conference organisers could not have rooted out these types before they influenced weaker minds with their slippery liberalism. Don't you think?
One more point. While you are entitled to your (rather loose and all-encompassing) definition of evangelicalism, for me it is better to define the ideal, and to classify all those who fall short of this ideal as such, rather than beating about the bush. I have my own definition, and while some may say it is not so "tolerant" as yours, I would ask those who espouse "tolerance" this question: what kind of "tolerance" is it that would rule out, in advance, my own definition of a true evangelical Christian? And so we find that the so-called "tolerant liberals" are not so "tolerant" after all.
So, biblically speaking, while there are those who hold to some of the necessary tenets of true evangelicalism, they have opened themselves up to the slippery probing of liberalism if they do not hold unreservedly to belief in verbal inerrancy of Scripture, mid-trib pre-millenial eschatology, complementarianism, supralapsarianism, heterosexual relationships as the only natural kind, and justification by faith. And this is no more than what the Early Church held to.
Do we really need to keep studying the Bible? Surely we know what it says by now, we just need to continue to live it out. I realise this is hard since most people think we are total fools for believing, and yet isn't that exactly what Paul knew would be required? A willingness to accept the 'foolishness' of the gospel.
It seems to me that academics are compromised because they have to come up with new and different interpretations just to have a job. For this reason, I think Bible College should be preparation for ministry, nothing more. If this was the case, we would do a lot more good for the gospel cause, I believe. Many leave Laidlaw with less of an idea of what the gospel is, and less faith in God, than ever. Others leave just confused. Others leave effectively liberal - a tragedy in my opinion.
Mark, you define yourself repeatedly and proudly as an evangelical so you must have some concerns regarding the influence of liberalism? Do we really need to 'dialogue' with everything? Do we really need to allow every thought and opinion around to 'shape' us? I don't think we do. God will shape those of us who let him and Jesus does not say that this shaping requires study, especially not the critical secular style study we often engage in at Laidlaw. What IS required, however, is the faith of a child.
Laidlaw style study, in my opinion, does not help with that and so is at best an interesting diversion for the academically inclined (I speak for myself here :) ... and at worst, destructive to the very gospel it professes to care so very much about.
Rant over :)
Thanks Albert. When we run an academic conference at LC, we are part of the wider "Christian" conversation and so there will be papers presented that we disagree with. In terms of Pauline authorship of Ephesians: I agree that Paul wrote Ephesians, but I don't think it makes you a liberal to believe that he didn't. I know a few people who reject Pauline authorship but still see Ephesians as holy scripture and believe in its message. They believe do not see the use of Paul's name negatively, but normative in the ancient context. I disagree, but I don't think it makes you a liberal.
In terms of lesbianism in Phil 4:2-3, if you went to the paper, you would have heard my critique. I think it is nonsense to be honest. Still, a person is able to present that view. That is their prerogative. When we host a conference like this, we cannot rule out people sharing their views. They are not speaking on behalf of Laidlaw. Similarly, when we go to their universities to present, they don't stop us presenting our evangelical views. That is the nature of open academic discourse.
You speak of the "ideal" and that we should classify those who fall short of this ideal. Well, that is problematic. What is the ideal on contentious matters. On some things, e.g. the bodily resurrection of Jesus, no problem. Or, to use the earlier example, that Euodia and Syntyche we lesbians. We can identify that as false and an indication of an overly liberal theology. On other contentious matters like the exact events of the end times, the nature of creation, etc, who decides the ideal. We have our opinions, we argue them, we defend them, but we have to accept that there are uncertainties. It depends on how much subjectivity we allow. Some are very narrow. As you say, I and LC are very accommodating. That is the nature of a broad centrist evangelical college. There has to be a degree of tolerance and openness. That said, you will hear LC lecturers speak out against heretical things too.
With respect, "verbal inerrancy" is a highly disputed doctrine. The early church never used that term. Nor will you find mid-trib pre-mill eschatology in the early church. That is a construct of Darby. Whether my comment is true or not, it is contentious. Calvin did not believe in it, nor Luther. Heterosexual marriage, yes, agree. That should not be contentious. Justification by faith for sure, although there are a range of other metaphors such as sanctification, reconciliation, adoption, etc, I would want to put alongside--all by faith of course.
A good example is slavery. For 1600 years or so Christians did not confront slavery. Over time, as they studied the bible, Wilberforce and others realised that slavery was not God's ideal. They worked out the implications of Gal 3:28; Philemon; Eph 6:9-10. They realised it was wrong. So they stood against it. Believe it or not, the church has misinterpreted the bible in the past, and it was because good Christians studied it that we realised it was wrong. I do a agree there is a danger, and study can have the opposite effect. But that doesn't mean we don't study. We should always be "going deeper" as I like to say.
Some students leave LC less confident in their faith. That is something we are always working on and a risk when you study. But many many more leave LC on fire for Jesus with a much deeper faith. I was one of those and so was my wife. I loved the place. I loved the study. I am glad for it. Remember many are leaving the faith who never went to a college too.
We always have to dialogue with everyone. Why? Because we are called to preach the gospel in today's world. This means talking to people, debating them, discussing with them, challenging their ideas. Take Dawkins for example. Christians have read his book on atheism and written responses. That is a dialogue. We need to counter liberal ideas. That is our call. I do agree that we need faith like a child. Remember that the person who said this was Jesus who was very very educated. So was Luke, who was a brilliant historian. So was Paul, who was a brilliant thinker. The bible was written by people who studied. Why shouldn't we follow their example?
Cheers.
Mark
Interesting post and discussion. I just want to pick up on the reference to the issue of so-called "lesbianism in Phil 4:2-3" in regards to the paper at ANZATS. To my recollection, the presenter did not, in fact, argue that these characters were lesbians, for such a classification is anachronistic. Rather, the presenter assessed the various hermeneutical standpoints that give rise to different interpretations. What was argued is that these characters do not fit easily into any categories of modern sexuality, which is what makes them "queer".
Rupert
In a sense I agree with you. However, anachronistic or not, the implication of the paper and M. D'Angelo's paper is that these partnerships may have been sexual, i.e. what we might call lesbianism.
Using D'Angelo's three couplets. Martha and Mary are sisters. If "sisters" is sexual, then are we to assume that Lazarus their "brother" was a part of a sexual triangle?
Tryphena and Tryphosa feature in the same letter as Rom 1:26-27 which makes it unlikely.
As for Euodia and Syntyche, there is nothing to suggest their relationship was sexual. If they were, sexual immorality would feature in Philippians. However, it doesn't, unlike most of the other undisputed Paulines.
The whole idea is clutching at straws and doesn't help the argument about sexual relationships. Rather, it feels like special pleading and will cause biblically minded people not to take it seriously.
Better to admit Paul repudiated same sex relationships, and then argue on other grounds such as Jesus' attitude, science, and culture.
Cheers, Mark.
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